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	<title>Comments on: 4 Things the Grateful Dead Can Teach You About Social Business</title>
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		<title>By: Jack Straw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Straw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 20:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with some of the comments here that the product - the music and the atmosphere that &quot;magically&quot; kept people on a lot of drugs from sharp corners -  was primary, and when the market went crazy, like Deer Valley, some of the limits of managing a &quot;community&quot; that could all of a sudden appear in the same place became pretty evident.  

The Dead did thread a needle.  They were more-or-less broke in the mid-70s, and really hit their massive success when almost everybody else was going opposite directions.   Most of all, though, I think they liked playing, couldn&#039;t make it off of record sale, and figured out how to make touring work.   

I love a lot of other bands, but there was nothing like a Grateful Dead concert.   Still isn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with some of the comments here that the product &#8211; the music and the atmosphere that &#8220;magically&#8221; kept people on a lot of drugs from sharp corners &#8211;  was primary, and when the market went crazy, like Deer Valley, some of the limits of managing a &#8220;community&#8221; that could all of a sudden appear in the same place became pretty evident.  </p>
<p>The Dead did thread a needle.  They were more-or-less broke in the mid-70s, and really hit their massive success when almost everybody else was going opposite directions.   Most of all, though, I think they liked playing, couldn&#8217;t make it off of record sale, and figured out how to make touring work.   </p>
<p>I love a lot of other bands, but there was nothing like a Grateful Dead concert.   Still isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: The Original Social Network Pros &#171; Chatterloop&#039;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Original Social Network Pros &#171; Chatterloop&#039;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 02:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Shannon Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shannon Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, 

I wasn&#039;t trying to imply that improvisation was anything to do with marketing, but the lessons contained in an improvisational environment can benefit marketing and business strategy. Maybe I was being a bit less literal when I wrote this -- my intention was to use the Grateful Dead&#039;s approach to EVERYTHING as a metaphor for businesses to understand how approaching things with a work-in-progress mentality and  dependent on fan interaction is better than a tight, command-and-control approach. Make sense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, </p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t trying to imply that improvisation was anything to do with marketing, but the lessons contained in an improvisational environment can benefit marketing and business strategy. Maybe I was being a bit less literal when I wrote this &#8212; my intention was to use the Grateful Dead&#8217;s approach to EVERYTHING as a metaphor for businesses to understand how approaching things with a work-in-progress mentality and  dependent on fan interaction is better than a tight, command-and-control approach. Make sense?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Parker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a nice summary that hits several of the key lessons the Dead can offer marketers. As a lifelong Dead fan and self-taught guitarist who literally learned a lot of technique from listening to Jerry Garcia&#039;s playing, I have strong feelings about using their story to teach fan base marketing. 

The most important thing to know about the Grateful Dead is that the marketing (which might more accurately be called &quot;fan customer service&quot;) was in service to the music--NOT the other way around.  The music was everything. Your implication that improvisation had anything whatsoever to do with fan relations is the one area where you&#039;ve strayed in your post. You have to understand that was the musical style. It was not concocted by marketers, it was one of the core elements of the band&#039;s highly original art form.

Anyone who takes this topic seriously needs to understand a few things about the Dead that are not obvious if you weren&#039;t there. First, as I have tweeted, the Dead&#039;s marketing had two things that most campaigns do not: LSD and one of the greatest bands of all time. It&#039;s not really possible to use the Dead as exemplars without acknowledging the integral role of the hippie/psychedelic culture. Second, the Dead Heads were a near-nomadic tribe who were part of that culture and who make today&#039;s rabid fans look like fickle amateurs. The point being no marketing campaign can turn a fan base into a culture--the culture was prerequisite. Third, and this follows from the first two, the Dead were a true cultural phenomenon, not merely one of the greatest bands of all time. If whatever you&#039;re hawking is not one, then your mileage may vary. 

All too often, spectacular results come not from spectacular marketing, but from spectacular products. Any attempt to attribute the success of a spectacular product to the marketing is suspect.

We should be careful to avoid twisting the Dead&#039;s story to fit some marketer&#039;s imaginary scenario. Not having read the book yet, I can&#039;t say if it crosses the line. I hope not. There are lessons to be learned, for sure, but we can only learn about fan base marketing from the Dead if the story is complete, accurate and true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a nice summary that hits several of the key lessons the Dead can offer marketers. As a lifelong Dead fan and self-taught guitarist who literally learned a lot of technique from listening to Jerry Garcia&#8217;s playing, I have strong feelings about using their story to teach fan base marketing. </p>
<p>The most important thing to know about the Grateful Dead is that the marketing (which might more accurately be called &#8220;fan customer service&#8221;) was in service to the music&#8211;NOT the other way around.  The music was everything. Your implication that improvisation had anything whatsoever to do with fan relations is the one area where you&#8217;ve strayed in your post. You have to understand that was the musical style. It was not concocted by marketers, it was one of the core elements of the band&#8217;s highly original art form.</p>
<p>Anyone who takes this topic seriously needs to understand a few things about the Dead that are not obvious if you weren&#8217;t there. First, as I have tweeted, the Dead&#8217;s marketing had two things that most campaigns do not: LSD and one of the greatest bands of all time. It&#8217;s not really possible to use the Dead as exemplars without acknowledging the integral role of the hippie/psychedelic culture. Second, the Dead Heads were a near-nomadic tribe who were part of that culture and who make today&#8217;s rabid fans look like fickle amateurs. The point being no marketing campaign can turn a fan base into a culture&#8211;the culture was prerequisite. Third, and this follows from the first two, the Dead were a true cultural phenomenon, not merely one of the greatest bands of all time. If whatever you&#8217;re hawking is not one, then your mileage may vary. </p>
<p>All too often, spectacular results come not from spectacular marketing, but from spectacular products. Any attempt to attribute the success of a spectacular product to the marketing is suspect.</p>
<p>We should be careful to avoid twisting the Dead&#8217;s story to fit some marketer&#8217;s imaginary scenario. Not having read the book yet, I can&#8217;t say if it crosses the line. I hope not. There are lessons to be learned, for sure, but we can only learn about fan base marketing from the Dead if the story is complete, accurate and true.</p>
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		<title>By: J T DUTTON</title>
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		<dc:creator>J T DUTTON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 15:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the Grateful Dead community. I love sharing stuff. I owe them for the emotional inspiration they gave me to write Freaked, my first novel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the Grateful Dead community. I love sharing stuff. I owe them for the emotional inspiration they gave me to write Freaked, my first novel.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 14:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re right in your premise, but it feels so wrong. I have to assume they were about the music, and the marketing, while successful, was an accident. If I consider anything else my world will become too jaded even for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re right in your premise, but it feels so wrong. I have to assume they were about the music, and the marketing, while successful, was an accident. If I consider anything else my world will become too jaded even for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Social Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Social Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 22:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shannon,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nice piece.  In a similar fashion, I wrote &quot;What Brands and Social Media Players Can Learn from The Grateful Dead&quot; at &lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/NJX9k&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/NJX9k&lt;/a&gt; a while back.  I think we are on the same page - (:&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Best,&lt;br&gt;Social Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shannon,</p>
<p>Nice piece.  In a similar fashion, I wrote &#8220;What Brands and Social Media Players Can Learn from The Grateful Dead&#8221; at <a href="http://bit.ly/NJX9k" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/NJX9k</a> a while back.  I think we are on the same page &#8211; (:&gt;)</p>
<p>Best,<br />Social Steve</p>
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		<title>By: nommo</title>
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		<dc:creator>nommo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 09:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aha! Great post Shannon (actually I am spotting many great posts here - I will be back!) This particular post helped me think about the company I work for in a different light - particularly regarding social business optimisation.

It is also worth noting that John Perry Barlow went on to join WELL in 1986 (where there was an emerging tribe of online deadheads), sat on their board of directors and also later founded the Electronic Frontier Foundation.

It would be fair to say that the Grateful Dead was instrumental in the actual evolution of the social web and online community, not just a great metaphor for socially optimised business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aha! Great post Shannon (actually I am spotting many great posts here &#8211; I will be back!) This particular post helped me think about the company I work for in a different light &#8211; particularly regarding social business optimisation.</p>
<p>It is also worth noting that John Perry Barlow went on to join WELL in 1986 (where there was an emerging tribe of online deadheads), sat on their board of directors and also later founded the Electronic Frontier Foundation.</p>
<p>It would be fair to say that the Grateful Dead was instrumental in the actual evolution of the social web and online community, not just a great metaphor for socially optimised business.</p>
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		<title>By: 4 Things the Grateful Dead Can Teach You About Social Business &#171; Geoff&#39;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://veryofficialblog.com/2010/03/02/4-things-the-grateful-dead-can-teach-you-about-social-business/comment-page-1/#comment-2205</link>
		<dc:creator>4 Things the Grateful Dead Can Teach You About Social Business &#171; Geoff&#39;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 14:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 4 Things the Grateful Dead Can Teach You About Social Business: It doesn’t matter whether you love or hate their music, the Grateful Dead might just provide one of the best case studies on fan cultivation and word of mouth marketing ever&#8230;. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 4 Things the Grateful Dead Can Teach You About Social Business: It doesn’t matter whether you love or hate their music, the Grateful Dead might just provide one of the best case studies on fan cultivation and word of mouth marketing ever&#8230;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 02:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great summation of The Dead&#039;s impact on social business.  They truly were innovators in moving the &quot;free line&quot; and many other business concepts such as &quot;Organized Chaos&quot; (adopted by Google).

I found your posting while researching an article I wrote about: The 7 Business Lessons I Learned From The Grateful Dead:

http://www.purchase.com/blog/leadership/7-business-lessons-i-learned-from-the-grateful-dead</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great summation of The Dead&#8217;s impact on social business.  They truly were innovators in moving the &#8220;free line&#8221; and many other business concepts such as &#8220;Organized Chaos&#8221; (adopted by Google).</p>
<p>I found your posting while researching an article I wrote about: The 7 Business Lessons I Learned From The Grateful Dead:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.purchase.com/blog/leadership/7-business-lessons-i-learned-from-the-grateful-dead" rel="nofollow">http://www.purchase.com/blog/leadership/7-business-lessons-i-learned-from-the-grateful-dead</a></p>
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